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A crash course in Texas grammar
As a native Texan, I can say that the use of "y'all" is far more nuanced than most foreigners (yes, I do include people from other states) stereotype it to be. Most of the time when you hear a character on TV or in a movie use the word "y'all", they are using it incorrectly (and often with a bad accent to boot). Here's how it really works, in real life:

It is informal and plural in all cases, but it can also be used when speaking to a singular person who is understood to be the representative of a group (such as asking the person answering the door at your neighbor's house "Do y'all have a cup of sugar I could borrow?"). In many cases (especially with older folks) saying "you people" or "you guys" is seen as rude (some even see the latter as sexist), and saying "you all" is mainly done when putting an emphasis on either the "you" (as distinguished from "us") or the "all" (meaning "each and every last one", in a sort of accusatory manner)...or it sounds like you're deliberately trying not to say "y'all", if you're saying it in a situation where "y'all" would be appropriate.

I freely admit that it's nonstandard. But for people who don't understand it to dismiss it as though it were slang or lazy grammar is wrong. Here it's just another pronoun, roughly similar to the Spanish "vosotros". In fact, in Spanish classes here we learn "vosotros" as being the equivalent of "y'all" (if we learn about vosotros and its conjugations at all, since it's not used much in Latin America).

EDIT: see this post in linguaphiles for a nice big discussion on this.
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hnpcc From: hnpcc Date: Friday 10th October 2003 21.39 (UTC) (Link)
I think the Australian equivalent is "youse", although that can also be just bad English!

But there is definitely some crossover as the plural you pronoun ("youse garna footy?" "Owaryouse?")
kutsuwamushi From: kutsuwamushi Date: Saturday 11th October 2003 06.29 (UTC) (Link)
I'm sorry for invading your journal, but you don't have any contact information listed.

I'm deleting my comments in component_help about LJ Support. I thought you would like to know so can delete yours as well, if you wish. liabunny gave us the smackdown.

I didn't know we were fighting ... but in case you did felt picked on, I apologize.
valamelmeo From: valamelmeo Date: Saturday 11th October 2003 13.38 (UTC) (Link)
Nah, it's not a big deal. It just bothers me that things have to be tailored so much to the lowest common denominator that someone who actually does mostly know what they're doing has to prove it before they can get a real answer. I'm sure most people don't have a problem with it, but for my purposes I've found it more efficient to avoid support altogether.

Yeah, I think I'll delete those comments...